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Fluoride drops for babies? Yes? No? Maybe? Gahh?????!!!!

*EDIT There are many emails, tweets and comments so I”ll edit to add that we do not have fluoride in our water. So, Butterlump gets no fluoride at all.

**EDIT EDIT Also, Aaron’s Pediatrician has recommended and prescribed fluoride drops.

To keep a long, ranty story short, Jonathan and I are torn on a couple of things regarding our little baby butterlump. It’s shocking that Jonathan and I in disagreement about something, huh?

Right now the debate is giving him fluoride drops daily.

I am all for it, Jonathan is against it.

It’s really quite odd that I am the liberal of the family but  my uber conservative husband is almost always the one holding up the hippie-tree-hugging herbal/alternative treatment as the end all be all.

Seriously…it’s weird.

Jonathan doesn’t think that flouride is meant to be ingested.

I want to add it to the city’s water supply (and voted for that but was shot down).

I used fluoride drops with my first and did not with my second. I know that the genetics are different as James is from my first marriage but seriously, his teeth are MUCH better than his brother’s.  And I haven’t ever noticed any negative fall out from them.

Gah.

Does anyone else struggle with this?  Disagree? Pro or con?

I am not staking my cross on any hill to die here, I am really looking for information and input. I don’t make important decisions just based on the Internet but it is a HUGE resource of information and thought for me.

So, while I don’t know if it will change my mind or not (and I guarantee it will NOT change Jonathan’s. Heh.) I might find how much of a deal this is to me with more discussion.

So…whaddya think, peeps?

And while you’re pondering…Butterlump turned 8-months-old yesterday!

Where has the time gone?

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  1. 1
    avatar Azucar says:

    I get FURIOUS that fluoride isn’t in our water. It needs to be. Maybe I’ll make that my quest in a year or two because I, no offense, Jonathan, want to smack people like Jonathan.

    I give my babies fluoride drops w/o the vitamins while they’re nursing. After we’re done nursing I will do the fluoride with vitamins, or in any combination that gives their teeth the strength that they need.

    And I’m NOT interested in people’s opinions on something they read on the Internet about fluoride in drinking water. Here’s what I trust: peer reviewed and published research, not some dude who thinks fluoride causes cancer of the pubic bone. Or Whatever.

    Fluoride: YES.

  2. 2
    avatar Steph says:

    I vote yes. And I am the bids. LOL

  3. 3
    avatar Heather P. says:

    I didn’t know flouride drops were available or I would have been giving them to my kid. I had flouride treatments as a kid and I have really good strong teeth.

  4. 4
    avatar Tyler Riggs says:

    I resolutely stand with Jonathan in opposition to allowing your child to ingest fluoride drops.

    The risk of fluoride certainly is minimal, but it’s really not necessary anymore, especially for ingestion. The concept of needing to fluoridate water is also extremely outdated.

    If it were my child, I wouldn’t be putting unnecessary stuff into the body.

  5. 5
    avatar Nancy says:

    Is he getting fluoride from any other source? (At all?) I don’t have strong views pro or con fluoride, but I know that too much is harmful, so if he’s getting it elsewhere (at a relative’s house, for instance), there’s the possibility that the drops could bump up the amount he gets into the “too much” range.

  6. 6
    avatar Sue says:

    Yeah… about those flouride drops… I just have a cat, so… I have nothing for you.

    In other news, your little butterlump looks just like his dad. SO CUTE! Happy 8 months, chica!

  7. 7
    avatar Karishma says:

    I am ALL ABOUT prevention when it comes to medical care. I think it’s the biggest tragedy that prevention isn’t emphasized more in medicine around here. But when it comes to fluoride drops, my reaction is very…. meh. There is no reason whatsoever to *ingest* fluoride vs. getting it on teeth through toothpaste, especially since cavity rates in countries with fluoridated water just aren’t all that different from the rates here. It seems to all be dependent on diet and genetics, based on the data. Fluoride isn’t water soluble, is not needed for a body to function, so it builds up in the body over time, especially in certain bones and glands, which is COMPLETELY unnecessary and can get dangerous over time, especially for those with kidney problems. I’ll stick with the toothpaste and mouthwash, please.

    Teeth is a lot of genetics. I have awesome teeth (so lazy, barely floss, candy, brush once a day, hardly take vitamins, yet no cavities) but my brother (same gene pool!) has absolutely horrendous teeth, and he takes care of them religiously. As a last ditch effort, his doctor put him on fluoride supplement pills for a while, and it really didn’t do anything. What did help? Getting his braces in so that his teeth were more effectively brushed and flossed as they straightened out. I really don’t think fluoride supplements do anything. While I’m an enormous fan of prevention, I’m SO not a fan of putting even more crap in our bodies than we already have to deal with from the environment. Which is to say: sure, fluoride drops. But what other carcinogenic fillers and whatnot are in it? What level of drops is toxic, and is there any point spending money on this if he spits it up anyway? etc.

    It’s disputed if fluoride event provides any benefits in the first place. (This cites good sources – http://www.fluoridealert.org/50-reasons.htm) But let’s say they do, for argument’s sake. Since the drops are meant for the teeth, it’s more effective to get it all ON the enamel of the teeth. Which is why it’s entirely possible that the most effective thing to do is use toothpaste with fluoride in it, since we all use toothpaste anyway. :)

    Sorry about the ass-vice. I’m in the process of going into medicine, so I’m surrounded by medical ass-vice all the time, and figured I’d just put this out there.

  8. 8
    avatar megan says:

    I would have to say no way. Just clean his little toofers with one of those little finger brushes and the non-fluoride baby toothpaste.
    Teeth are subject to so many things, and fluoride can be toxic. I have two kids with messed up teeth and the other 6 (who have teeth) have perfect teeth. Our dentist says it is genetics, general health and of course hygiene that makes the greatest difference.
    I’m sure you know this already, but I never did until my oldest was big enough to see the dentist, but antibiotics used too often in the early years can cause the adult teeth which are forming at this time to come in with deformed or not enough enamel. Just something to watch out for. My little girl ended up with some real problems due to too many antibiotics for ear infections. I was too young and stupid to know any better. Glad I learned, eventually!
    My baby turned 8 months old just after midnight last night!

    • 9
      avatar Milica says:

      hmm, about the ear infections, that’s probably why my teeth are cold sensitive and prone to other problems. I had them chronic and silent until I got tubes at 2 years old, so maybe not too much exposure compared to some. But that is very interesting. Thank you for posting that!

  9. 10
    avatar OHmommy says:

    I just called my dentist husband on the way to work, “Hey. My friend Loralee has an 8 month old and is considering fluoride drops.”

    He said that teeth are all genetic and you get all the fluoride you need in tap water. To which I replied that you don’t have any in yours. He suggested you purchase water bottles with fluoride in them. Hope that helps.

  10. 11
    avatar Sarcastica says:

    I didn’t know you could get drops, but you know what? I’m going to be considering this now. Matt and I both have TERRIBLE teeth, Matt more so. His teeth are so soft he can chip them SO EASILY. I definitely don’t want Nolan to inherit Matt’s horrible soft teeth…so I’m thinking fluoride drops might prevent this from happening.

  11. 12
    avatar Meg says:

    When I was a kid I had fluoridated water, plus fluoride toothpaste, plus the fluoride “swish” they made us do at school. Now at 26 I have fluorosis from too much fluoride. It’s caused discolored spots on my teeth, and created weak spots that my dentist says are more susceptible to cavities. Too much of a good thing is bad!

  12. 13
    avatar karen says:

    My dentist says NO to ingested fluoride, even considering our well water (no additives). She says that topical applications are enough (you know, when they stick the gel in a tray and the kid bites into it at the dentist twice per year with a good cleaning). Too much fluoride can cause brown spots on teeth and something else she told me and I’ve now forgotten. As of ages 9 & 11, neither of my kids has ever had a cavity…so I’d say her advice is on the mark.

  13. 14
    avatar tawnya says:

    It drives us both crazy it isn’t in the water here. Hate it. Absolutely yes to giving fluoride. We give Sammy the vitamins with it added.

  14. 15
    avatar lceel says:

    Shoot me if I’m wrong, but I believe that fluoride is typically APPLIED to teeth – as opposed to being something in the body which is absorbed by teeth. Wait unitl he has teeth and use a fluoride added toothpaste – and when he gets bigger – have him use a fluoride added mouthwash. I’m afraid I have to side with your Hubs – it’s not something the baby would naturally eat – and I’m not sure the science says eating fluoride is perfectly safe for babies. In fact, fluorosis is a real possibility. Wait until his baby teeth are gone and he’s got his permanent teeth – then use toothpaste and mouthwashes to introduce fluoride. Fluorosis happens when babies are fed fluoride. It’s true.

    • 16
      avatar Jina says:

      Fluorosis happens when you’ve had an overdose of fluoride. It could happen whether you’re a child or an adult. If you don’t take care of the primary teeth/baby teeth it can affect his permanant teeth. My first born who is four has had fluoride since he was 6 months and does not have fluorosis.

  15. 17
    avatar Aunt Amy says:

    The American Dental Association (ADA) supports flouridization of public water, or in infants over 6 months the use of drops. (http://www.ada.org/public/topics/fluoride/news.asp).

    But then I’m also a believer in vaccinating my children.

  16. 18
    avatar Susan says:

    My parents always bought the fluoride free toothpast when I was younger and they still do, they are very big on the natural products. anyhow, I have never had a cavity in my life and I’ve never had braces but my teeth are straighter than an arrow!! I really beleive it has alot to do with genetics and also I never drink soda or eat candy so that might play into it also. I would never give my child flouride, I give my 2 year old son non-flouride toothpast and I am sure that his teeth are up to genetics (for his sake hopefully he gets my teeth and not his fathers!!) and hopefully he gets my tast for not likeing sweets!

  17. 19
    avatar bejewell says:

    My husband saw a new dentist a few weeks ago and the guy asked him if he was from the midwest. He said “Yeah, Kansas – how did you know that?” and the guy said that he could tell from the hub’s uber-healthy teeth — apparently there was a ton of fluoride in the water in that area when the hubs was growing up, and people from there tend to have super strong, healthy grills. Take that for what it’s worth.

    Also – that baby? NOM NOM NOM NOM

  18. 20
    avatar Erin Taylor says:

    I’m sorry, but have you EVER heard of anyone dying of fluoride??? Heck no! I say do it! I had them as a kid and have had pretty great teeth. My hubby did not and his teeth are horrible! We have fluoridated water and I voted for that. Do it- do it-do it…!

  19. 23
    avatar jeffra says:

    My mom swore by flouride and none of us three, now grown (in our 30′s) ever had a cavity. Genetics plays a role, but both my parents had cavities, only difference for us was the flouride drops (as long as he doesn’t get it from another source, like tap water). Plus they have vitamins in the drops too, so he gets both things he needs! Nothing overdone is ever good, hello. He will be fine with just drops and have beautiful teeth for it!

  20. 24
    avatar Kim says:

    I am a hippie liberal all natural kind of gal and I do fluoride drops. Amelia had 5 cavities in a year and I think the fluoride is probably better for her than the versed they have to give to do fillings.

  21. 25
    avatar Elizabeth says:

    I say yes on flouride. My pediatrician recommends them if your water isn’t flouridated. Just be careful to not overdo it, just like everything else in life – moderation is the key.

    • 26
      avatar Elizabeth says:

      Oh, I believe in Prevention as well. My mom died from lupus & I have several chronic health issues that could have been prevented if I had taken better care of myself when younger. Some health issues are genetic true but a lot of it is by CHOICES you make over your lifetime. As a parent, you are responsible for your child’s overall health until they are old enough to decide things for themselves. You do what is best for your child, their health, & your family overall.

  22. 27
    avatar Jina says:

    I am saying YES! I was a dental assistant for 4 years and would strongly advise giving fluoride to babies/kids. My kids recieve daily fluoride and trust me they NEED it! My husband has genetically bad teeth so I have to do everything I can. I have had fluoride my whole life (my mom would give it to us as babies) and I have only had 3 minor (1 surface) fillings in 26 years. AND I’m not disformed, growing tumors or have cancer of the pubic bone HAHAHAHA! My husband has had so much work I can’t even begin to list and never had fluoride when he was younger.

    Now when I said genetically bad teeth this is what I meant. I believe that teeth are two things: affected by genetics and affected by how you take care of them. Yes my husband has bad teeth and he often blames that genetics are soley to blame but drinking a pepsi before you go to bed and brushing once a day doesn’t help matters.

    Fluoride in large doses can be life threatening and cause huge problems….but seriously people you would have to consume ALOT before that happened. The amount precribed to a baby is so small it would only benefit. Fluoride is just like any medication….taken the right way can be a benefit.

    Can you really say no if your a person who drinks diet coke, coffee, takes an aspirin a day, diet pills, smokes, or is on birth control pills etc.????? Now dont get me wrong because I myself are doing at least 2 of those….but at least 3 dont have any health benefit at all and people do them all the time. Notice ALL of those I mentioned have health risks.

    Someone speak up if I am wrong but just like I don’t know of anyone who is slow or stupid because they didn’t crawl before they walked…I don’t know anyone who has serious problems because of fluoride given to them in CORRECT doses as a child.

  23. 28
    avatar David says:

    Absolutely in favor of the flouride. Look up the research and commonly understood wisdom on this (legitimate) public health policy issue. If your water had flouride in it I’d say don’t bother. Since it doesn’t, the preventative advantages far outweigh the arguments against. I’d go with the advice of the American Dental Association and do it.

  24. 29
    avatar Zoë says:

    I have no opinion on whether you should offer Mr. Butterlump fluoride drops, but I have to agree with other psosters that genetics plays a big part in how good or bad teeth are. We have always lived in towns with fluoridated water and we just found out our 5 year old son needs to have 8, that’s right 8, small cavities filled in his molars. This is a kid who never went to bed with a bottle, has never had soda, won’t eat hard candies or gummies, sometimes eats chocolate, and brushes his teeth twice a day. My husband and his dad have terrible teeth, and it looks like Cy will have too. Now we have to pay nearly $1000 (and that’s with insurance) to get those filled.

  25. 30
    avatar Cricket says:

    I grew up with well water. I did the trays, I did the braces, I brush and floss like a you would not believe. I have 13 yes 13 root canals, have lost 2 teeth I wish I didn’t and have a bridge. I know that most of this is due to my folks as they have bad teeth too and really should not have continued on the line. But my brother has hardly any dental work done, he still consumes more milk in a week than I do in a month or two.

    With Lily we are doing the vitamins with fluoride, but truth be told it doesn’t happen every day. We also didn’t start her on them until she was one. I do try and make sure than she drinks a good amount of milk every day. I really don’t know if it helps, but it doesn’t seem to hurt. We also don’t do anything but water in a sippy cup when she goes to bed.

    I would much rather use the drops which really I can control than have fluoride in my water. When we were trying to get pregnant and I was on Clomid I thought it was giving me acne, later I found that it was an allergic reaction to it.

    Personally, after all the money I have spent on my own dental work I wish that I would have been given fluoride drops.

  26. 31
    avatar Nancy says:

    I totally agree with Jonathan. In full disclosure, though, I am involved in numerous studies for autism and fluoride is one of the things they are looking at as being a possible environmental trigger for some kids. My daughter with autism is the only one who has had any problems with her teeth and is the only child I gave drops to. Could have nothing in common since genetics vary with each child but that is my experience.

    The original studies showing the benefit of fluoride used a different type of fluoride. The type that is currently used in water supplies is a byproduct of aluminum manufacturing. It is this fluoride that causes the aluminum in pans to leach in dangerous amounts (has to do with chemical affinity). And aluminum is not a good thing to be injesting or adding to your body in any way.

    I have researched this ad nauseum and found there to be little reason to give fluoride to children. The studies are mixed about the potential benefits while there are serious concerns being raised and tested in studies right now. Better to keep your kids away from carbonation, in my opinion. If you are looking for a good alternative, the research on xylitol from Finland is really fascinating: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xylitol

    Sorry for the espistle. I need a hobby. Good luck coming to a consensus with Jon!

    p.s. Aaron is just the most adorable baby boy EVAH!

  27. 34
    avatar christy says:

    Happy 8 month bday to him! And sorry, I have no opinion on fluoride drops – am going to ask my dr about them next appt for our own daughter!

  28. 35
    avatar Milica says:

    No comment on the flouride drops, since I don’t know much about it. *shrug* I think I remember my mom saying that she had my sister’s and my teeth coated when we were young and that it helped prevent problems. *shrug again*

    As for the butterlump? ADORABLENESS!

  29. 36

    We have fluoridated water, so I can’t really say what I would do. What I THINK I would do is talk to my pediatrician and probably do whatever he says to do. If he couldn’t give me a precise answer, and I had to think about it, I’d say no….

    Also, I wouldn’t have him drinking from water bottles. The plastic bottles are no good, says my naturopath…. I’m staying away from those now, personally.

    Also, Butterlump is ADORABLE!!!! :)

  30. 37
    avatar Carrisa says:

    My dad grew up on well water and he has brown teeth because of it. That alone would make me want to go for the drops. Or to buy some of that bottled water that has it in it. Genetics might influence if he’s gonna need braces or not, but I’m pretty sure there’s fluoride in our water for a good reason.

    Good luck in getting your way!

  31. 38
    avatar sandi says:

    We have fluoride in our water and I am thrilled. I am on your side. Give him the drops. What does your dentist say? Our pediatric dentist and pediatrician both say yes to fluoride.

    I am currently petitioning to add Prozac to our water supply. Lets vote on that!!

  32. 40
    avatar Heather says:

    My water has always been fluoridated, so I know no different, but if given the choice, yes fluoride.

  33. 41
    avatar Alice says:

    OK, this spurred me to read more on it, and I have to say, it’s weirdly fascinating. Short answer: I agree w/ Jonathan for now, but am a fluoride fan for older kids/ permanent teeth. As for links, the ADA here says that drops gen. aren’t recommended for kids under 6 unless prescribed by a doctor or dentist: http://www.ada.org/prof/resources/positions/statements/fluoride_infants.asp .

    Jonathan’s position makes sense to me – it falls in with the libertarian ‘don’t mess with things too much’ mentality that a lot of my family in AZ have. However, cavities suck, and so I adore fluoride as a topical preventative. I WISH I’d done fluoride mouthrinse as a kid – I had tons of cavities and our (douchey) dentist never made the whole well water-> lack of fluoride -> shitty teeth connection. It’s made a huge difference in my teeth ever since my awesome adult dentist mentioned it to me.

  34. 42

    Pineapple got flouride drops until she graduated to actual vitamin drops with flouride included. It’s flouride. It’s in most water systems – not here in PDX. In my humble opinion, and that of both my dentist and pediatrician…it’s helpful and not harmful at all. I vote YAY on the flouride drops. GO TEETH! :)

  35. 43
    avatar Diana says:

    Either way the cuteness that is Butterlump will be fine. The time between now and the advent of brushing his teeth with flouridated toothpaste is minimal. Do what your gut/pediatrician says (or what your husband will acquiesce to…)

  36. 44
    avatar Pink says:

    i don’t know if we have flouride in our water or not, but i’m thinking we do now b/c i remember as a child having to drink fluoride treatments out of a little cup at school.

    while some say genetics will tell, i don’t really believe that. my dad had horrible teeth, and my mom didn’t have really good ones, and at a young age (forties) they got dentures. out of the 4 of us, mine are probably the worst b/c i don’t see a dentist regularly b/c of no insurance. and only now am i having problems b/c my childhood dentist’s work is coming undone. that and i still had baby teeth as an adult of 26.

    so i think fluoride treatments are a good thing. i would consult butterlump’s pediatrician and a child’s dentist and get their opinions on it and see what they think. they’ll be the ones who would be able to give the most info.

    butterlump is getting big! and if possible – even cuter!! he’s such a cutie pie!!

  37. 45
    avatar Mary says:

    Add a vote for prevention from me. I used to think I was crunchy, but then the crunchy people told me I was mainstream, so I decided I was mainstream until the mainstream people told me I was crunchy. So now I don’t know who I am, but I would give flouride. And Loralee? That is the cutest butterlump I have ever seen in my LIFE.

  38. 46
    avatar GreenInOC says:

    I’m not sure that you don’t have fluoride according to this report – although let it be said that I could totally be misinterpreting this (go to page 2):

    http://www.loganutah.org/public_works/water_and_waste_water/images/LoganCity2008CCRPrintQuality.pdf

    For those with examples of great teeth with fluoride; at 81 my Dad had all of his teeth, they were straight, white and cavity free. He didn’t have fluoride as a child and his first and only visit to the dentist was when he was about 75.

    I think that the MSDS for Fluoride is really interesting:

    http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Sodium_fluoride-9927595

    • 47
      avatar loralee says:

      Logan is fluoride free. It was a HUGE deal a few years back when there was an initiative to add it to the water. I am one of 3 houses in North Logan that uses well water, so even if it had it I wouldn’t get it.

      I know that in large quantities fluoride can be a very bad thing for sure. I am just not sure…I have shitty teeth and I want my child to avoid it if at all possible, you know?

  39. 48
    avatar MommyTime says:

    Anecdotally: my husband grew up on well water (no flouride), and his mouth is completely full of fillings. Seriously, nearly every tooth has one, and he has had numerous root canals. I grew up on flouridated water, and I have no cavities at all. We are exactly the same age. My mother’s mouth is a hive of dental work, and her mother lost all her teeth at age 25ish due to lack of calcium in pregnancy / the Great Depression. So: genetically, I am not exactly in the prime pool for rock hard teeth. That would seem to point to flouride as important.

  40. 49
    avatar joeinvegas says:

    Every dentist I have heard thinks flouride is the best thing for strong teeth. Our daughter moved from here (with flouride) to Portland (without) and gives granddaughter a daily pill. Do it, lot better than soft teeth and cavities.

  41. 50
    avatar Hecticmom says:

    I’m chiming in late here – but, my kids are older (8 and 11) and have always always taken flouride drops or tablets (we do not have floridated water). Our dentist just took my kids off of them – I guess the newest research now is showing that the drops and tablets don’t help. It’s only the flouride that is actually applied to the teeth. So, now my kids get a painting of flouride on their teeth at their dental appointments.

    I don’t think it hurts – but it probably doesn’t help either.

  42. 51
    avatar Mr Lady says:

    I didn’t have fluoride in my water, either, and now I don’t have enough enamel on my teeth. And I STILL wouldn’t give my kid fluoride drops. I won’t give them anything they don’t require for existence, though.

    If Mr OhMommy says no, I’d go with that, honestly.

  43. 52
    avatar Amber says:

    I say yes.

    Luckily we have flouride in our water so I’ve never done the drops.

    Isn’t making decisions for children just FUN?

  44. 53
    avatar Lena says:

    I had the little pink flouride pills as a kid, but nothing else other than the regular dentist visits. And I have great teeth. Not spectacularly straight, but healthy. Good luck!

  45. 54
    avatar GreenInOC says:

    If you look at the link above, it looks to me that in spite of the water not being intentionally fluoridated, there is actually fluoride in the water. According to the report, the “source of contamination” is a result of run-off from fertilizer and aluminum or erosion of natural minerals.

    This report was from 2008 so maybe they stopped putting fluoride in after the test?

  46. 55
    avatar Bianca says:

    I’m verging on the side of ‘no’. I’m another one here with fluorosis. Despite the water in our area already being fluoridated, my dentist told my mother to give me fluoride supplements when I was a kid. As a result, my adult teeth are pretty strong, but they look DREADFUL and are very stained (worsened by train track braces). Their appearance has been improved slightly by use of an electric toothbrush, but that’s all. Home whitening kits don’t work, whitening toothpastes don’t work, and even the professional whitening using the gel and trays doesn’t work. As I said, they look awful, they make me feel very self-conscious about my appearance, and I feel that others might judge my hygiene on them. That, to me, is just as bad as actually having a load of cavities (I have one or two, but not many and nothing hugely serious).

  47. 56
    avatar Rachael says:

    I don’t know much about the flouride thing, Sam’s pediatrician prescribed them for him. But I never filled the prescription. only it was more out of laziness than anything else. We don’t have it in the water here either.

    Really I just wanted to say GAH YOUR BABY IS SO CUTE!

  48. 57
    avatar Kate says:

    I live in a city with fluoridated water. My toothpaste (which I used twice daily) is also fluoridated.

    I have never, ever, encountered anyone who has suffered issues from over-fluoridation so I suspect the levels of ingestion required for that are pretty high.

    I also know that my state (New South Wales, Australia) has far better state dental records than ur neighbouring state (Queensland) which does not have fluoridated water.

    That said, during my research for this response, I hit on 2 pieces of information – one being that some areas in the USA have very high naturally occuring fluoride levels in the water (like, 4 times what intentionally fluoridated water would be brought to -so you should watch out for this) and also, that current evidence indicates that fluoride supplements such as drops or tablets shouldn’t be used, even in un-fluoridated areas.

    http://www.dentist4kids.com.au/FluorideOtherAgents/tabid/69/Default.aspx

    http://www.nobledentist.com.au/education/fluoride_cavity_fighter.php

    Given this info, and knowing about your local water mineral levels, I would be vigilent about dosage if I chose to give fluoride drops. But providing you are vigilent, I don’t see any harm – only good.

  49. 58
    avatar Emily says:

    My two oldest had vitamins w/fluoride (when I remembered to give them) and they both have fluorosis. Hard, discolored outsides with soft mushy insides.

  50. 59
    avatar blah blah blacksheep says:

    The answer should be “no”, and in fact you should stop giving your child water that has been fluoridated, too. I could type up a bunch of crap about this, but really, this video pretty much sums it up nicely…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLgKeHOgneQ

    While water sources may be “optimally” fluoridated, water is used for many food processing techniques (like making cereals, baked goods, etc) which leaves higher than “optimal” doses of fluoride in the food. So, drinking fluoridated water and eating a standard american diet of bread, fruit juice, soda’s, etc…you’re getting a fluoride overdose.

    Fluoride was used to treat HYPERthyroidism in the 50′s, but stopped since it was deemed too toxic. Scientists and Dentists got this bright idea to add fluoride into the water since they noticed people with dental fluorisis staining on their teeth never seemed to get cavities. There was also (conveniently) a huge demand to get rid of fluoride wastes from companies using it for various processes (like making fertilizer). So, many government thought they were killing two birds with one stone … let’s get rid of fluoride WASTE by dumping it into the public drinking water.

    Later studies contradict earlier ones. Fluroide does make denser bones…but they are also more brittle…hence a bunch of older people breaking their hips now. Fluoride embeds itself in soft tissue as well as bone, and messes up thyroid metabolism, pinneal gland melatonin production (disrupts sleep cycle), messes with the brain and could be the reason ADHD/Autism/Schizophrenia is on the rise, and as a general poison it indiscriminantly wipes out probiotics in the digestive system. This has led to a population that’s getting fatter, sicker, and more insane as time goes by. Reason being, fluoride transfers from the mother to unborn infant during the 9 months gestation period. So, kids are being born pre-poisoned with fluoride. Then mothers do stupid things like give their kids fluoride drops because some dumb-ass dentist told them so, and later they’re having to pay a FORTUNE to the dentist to correct crooked & stained teeth.

    I got too much fluoride as a kid. I’ve never had a cavity in my life. I’ve also had to go through a NIGHTMARE of OTHER dental issues, because my jaw didn’t set right, my baby teeth didn’t pop out like they should have, etc, etc. I’ve had to spend a FORTUNE on dental issues…but I don’t have cavities. Whoopee.

    I also have partial autism, which makes me a social introvert and isolationist. I don’t form relationships. I don’t have a sex drive. I don’t date. I like to be left alone.

    I also have very little energy. My doctor runs blood panels, they come back normal, so obviously I must be ok. Meanwhile, I barely have enough energy to go to work every day.

    I traced a lot of my issues back to fluoride. I stopped drinking fluoridated water (switched to distilled drinking water, like Culligan and Ozarka), and while some of my issues got better, I’m still stuck with some. I’ve been permanantly damaged, all because I got too much fluoride as a kid growing up.

    Now then… YOU have the opportunity to stop this cycle. The only reason fluoride helps with dental caries is because it poisons the plaque-causing bacteria. You know what? You can prevent plaque causing bacteria by stop giving your child processed carb foods, instead making sure they eat more vegetables and protein as they grow up. Fluoride in water was basically a huge band-aid to make up for the fact that the American diet has way too much flour and sugar in it.

    Stop giving your kid drops. Stop giving them fluoridated water. Stop letting them brush their teeth with fluoridated tooth paste. As for food, you’re sort of stuck with that, but the less processed it is the better.

    Early humans evolved without fluoride in THEIR water, and they didn’t have dental issues … until grains started being the dominant food source in their diets. Neanderthals have very pretty teeth (meat, vegetable & nut diet). Mayans and Aztecs don’t (grain diet). This is a case where the doctor, dentists or whomever after WWII thought they were smarter than they really were, made some snap decisions, and it’s been screwing up peoples’ lives ever since.

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